At The Rotterdam
Two old friends talk finance, money, and investing, every Friday. The Rotterdam was a popular downtown Toronto pub known for its extensive European beer selection. It was the perfect place for two rookies working for a large, US investment dealer to hang out after work on Fridays and discuss the capital markets. The discussion continues today on our podcast, with more perspective. We will tackle a new topic each week and try to keep the sessions shorter than thirty minutes. There seems to be an unprecedented amount of crisis news in current headlines. Our podcast explains why those who ignore history and react to noise typically have poor investment results. Always challenging but historically important, the stock, bond, currency, crypto and derivatives markets provide a unique look at human economic behavior. Jeff and Rasheed are not macro “talking heads” selling theory as fact. Rather than making short-term calls, we seek to simplify, clarify and discuss the financial markets from an honest theoretical and historical perspective. Importantly, our views come from our personal wide and deep experiences in the field. We hope that you enjoy the discussions. If you do please subscribe and recommend us to your friends. Please feel free to use the links to send comments or questions.
Episodes

Sunday Feb 12, 2023
Episode 014: When Money Fails
Sunday Feb 12, 2023
Sunday Feb 12, 2023
MONEY AND ECONOMICS (HISTORY). Recorded February 8, 2023. Published February 10, 2023.
Throughout history, too little money has harmed entire populations, and it is generally the poor and especially urban poor who suffer the most.
In Episode 14, Jeff and Rasheed show that a shortage can be so catastrophic that the private sector will often intervene to meet the needs of the desperate citizenry.
The consequences of not having enough money in the system include recession, deflation, revolution or re-enslavement. So dire are the alternatives, that private solutions will often risk severe penalties, including death, by being boiled in oil.
One of the best examples of private money filling a key need was the rise of copper tokens issued by mining companies and others in late 18th century Britain. As late as 1812, tokens were circulating at five to ten times the rate of official currency. One issuer minted three hundred tons, at 600+ coins per minute.
Without private intervention the coin shortage would have been catastrophic for the industrial revolution, where former agricultural “smallholders” were forced from their lands, entered new workplaces and needed to be paid in small amount per week, and where they in turn need to buy provisions on an almost daily basis.
Listen in for more of the story.
For more on this subject read:
Chambers, D., Saleuddin, R. and Mcmahon, C., 2019. Alternative finance: a historical perspective.
Kuroda, A., 2005. Copper-coins chosen and silver differentiated.
Lurvink, K., 2014. Strapped for cash: Non-cash payments on Louisiana cotton plantations, 1865–1908.
Selgin, G., 2008. Good money: Birmingham button makers, the Royal Mint, and the beginnings of modern coinage, 1775–1821
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Friday Feb 03, 2023
Episode 013: Luck, Tricks and Wall Street
Friday Feb 03, 2023
Friday Feb 03, 2023
INVESTING (EVERYONE). Recorded February 1, 2023. Published February 3, 2023.
Despite the evidence that few active investment strats consistently outperform the market, most of "us" still get suckered into paying active fees.
While falling as a percentage of AUM, active funds over all geographies and asset classes continue to dominate.
Episode 13 of At The Rotterdam finds Jeff and Rasheed explaining how our own biases drive us towards active investment strategies, and how Wall Street takes advantage of our weaknesses.
Links:
https://www.dimensional.com/us-en/insights/why-worry-about-survivorship-bias
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stock-market-fund-benchmark-change-11660940613?mod=wsjhp_columnists_pos3
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Friday Jan 27, 2023
Episode 012: Beyond 60/40?
Friday Jan 27, 2023
Friday Jan 27, 2023
INVESTING (EVERYONE). Published January 26, 2023.
There is so much more to asset allocation than 60 stocks/40 bonds.
Jeff and Rasheed introduce academic finance's contribution, which is no better than simple heuristics.
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Friday Jan 20, 2023
Episode 011: Is 60/40 Dead?
Friday Jan 20, 2023
Friday Jan 20, 2023
INVESTING (EVERYONE). Published January 20, 2023.
The most generic rule in allocating one’s investments to the various possible asset classes is to be 60% stocks and 40% bonds.
But 60/40 performed very badly last year, after more than a decade of having both bonds and stock rally on the back of low inflation and ever-declining interest rates.
Now there is a debate about whether or not 60/40 is optimal for (at least some) investors. Goldman Sachs believes it is a good choice given that the future is always uncertain. Blackrock wants us to expand into more asset classes. Yet another opinion at Goldman Sachs sees the 60/40 success of the past as potentially gone for a very long time, perhaps even a lost decade.
In episode 11 of At The Rotterdam, Jeff and Rasheed argue that thinking in terms of 60/40 obscures the most important question, which is what portfolio is most suitable for each investor.
This separates the decision into two parts.
What amount of money do I need in the future at various key dates. Or, if no specific needs, how much of my portfolio should be in reasonably safe assets so that I can sleep at night?
For the riskier allocation, what risk premium am I trying to capture and how is the best way to do this? The equity risk premium (ERP) has dominated the past 150 years of investing in the US. But there are others: inflation, credit, liquidity and commodity. There might even be different risk premium in sub-classes (e.g. the smaller company premium in US equities).
The events of 2022 reveal that the bond bucket in 60/40 is far from low risk: Bonds fell almost as much as equities last year. And they were down last year as well!
So fixed income investing shouldn’t simply be a case of owning the bond market. Micro strategies are likely necessary. Institutions call one of these asset-liability matching. Another time we will dig into the best way to do this. For sure, however, a bond fund does not do this.
60/40 is good as a heuristic, reminding us to diversify, and so a good starting point for a discussion. But there are many more dimensions to an asset allocation decision, including one’s own specific needs.
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Friday Jan 13, 2023
Episode 010: Does Ex Fed Chair Ben Bernanke Deserve a Nobel Prize?
Friday Jan 13, 2023
Friday Jan 13, 2023
MONEY AND ECONOMICS. Recorded January 11, 2023. Released January 13, 2023.
In awarding ex-Chair of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke the 2022 Nobel Prize, a committee member observed that “Bernanke showed that banks played a central role in turning a relatively small recession into the Great Depression… [and] how badly it can go wrong if nothing is done about crises”.
While the committee denied that Ben’s actions during the Global Financial Crisis were a contributing factor, it was extremely fortuitous that it was one of the few specialists covering the monetary causes of the Great Depression who was in the driver’s seat at the Fed when deflation and depression loomed in 2008-9.
In episode 10 of At The Rotterdam, Jeff and Rasheed discuss just how important Professor Bernanke’s research in the 1980s and actions in the 2000’s were.
A solid knowledge of history backed the policies that halted the global economy’s fall into Depression.
Some useful links:
Bernanke's speech to Milton Friedman
Ben's winning 1983 paper
The Nobel Prize committee on Ben
Perry Mehrling on the Fed as Dealer of Last Resort
Bagehot's Lombard Street
The Economics Nobel is not a real Nobel Prize
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Friday Jan 06, 2023
Episode 009. Bubbles
Friday Jan 06, 2023
Friday Jan 06, 2023
INVESTING (EVERYONE). Recorded December 18, 2022. Released January 6, 2023.
For episode 9 of At The Rotterdam we talk a bit about financial bubbles, centering on one of the worst boom/bust tropes in financial history, the Dutch tulipmania of 1686-7.
The tulip bubble is a terrible poster child for bubbles. For one thing, it didn’t really happen, no matter what Charles Mackay wrote in his famous 1841 book.
To the extent that prices rose and fell, the event was too small to impact most of the citizenry, or other markets.
The tulip bubble had no long-term technological benefits, unlike bubbles in internet stocks, railways, cars and bicycles, to name a few.
Tulipmania had no regulatory response, unlike the South Sea Bubble of 1720 or the subprime boom and bust.
In any event, it is almost impossible to tell when a bubble has started or even finished. The 1998-9 NASDAQ looked like a bubble in 2001. But a small blip in a long bull market today.
So not only are bubbles not as evil as many a morality tale contends, they can be forces for good. And trying to avoid them risks missing capturing the risk premium if the market doesn’t crash. Not all booms go bust.
Embrace bubbles.
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Friday Dec 23, 2022
Episode 008. SPACs: Where are the customers’ yachts?
Friday Dec 23, 2022
Friday Dec 23, 2022
INVESTING (INTERMEDIATE). Recorded December 9, 2022.
For episode 8 of At The Rotterdam we take a deep dive into one of the worst-performing structures of the last bull run. What do you need to know to avoid getting taken to the cleaners by Wall Street?
There is an 80 year old book on the inner workings of Wall Street: Where are the customers’ yachts? It serves to remind us that there is far more money – or at least leverage – in providing financial advice than there is in receiving financial advice. Fees are of course everywhere. But it’s also the motivation. Grifters love financialization, for sure, but the investment business also motivates pretty much everyone to take the most fees and offset maximum risk to those least able to handle it.
Special Purpose Acquisition Companies (SPACs) are just one such example of misaligned interests, uncompensated risk and egregious fees.
Hugely popular in the final throes of the tech boom, SPACs are structured to put retail investors in the eventual combination – the “de-SPAC” – at a huge disadvantage on day 1. Certainly some de-SPACs work out, but this is in spite of the structure, not because of it.
SPAC apologists point out that IPOs are down as much as SPACs, and blame the investment climate. While this is partially true, the argument ignores the fact that IPOs rallied much more in the run up to the recent correction: While IPOs had 3.5x’d in the three years leading up to the market top, de-SPACs on average hardly budged. Since 2018 SPACs are down 60% while IPOs are up around the same amount.
Some key readings:
https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2020/11/19/a-sober-look-at-spacs/
https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2021/04/23/recent-spac-shareholder-suits-in-new-york-state-courts-the-beginning-wave-of-spac-litigation/
https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SPACS.pdf
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Friday Dec 16, 2022
Episode 007. About the Psychology of Money. How can we be better investors?
Friday Dec 16, 2022
Friday Dec 16, 2022
INVESTING (EVERYONE). Recorded December 15, 2022.
Episode 7 of At The Rotterdam is our first book review.
Morgan Housel’s Psychology of Money is a masterpiece, packed with easy to understand anecdotes explaining why we struggle so much with money, wealth and our financial lives. But to us, the investing advice is beyond legendary.
We recommend reading the book in its entirety. But here are the gems and how they fit with our understanding of investing on At The Rotterdam.
Housel begins in Chapter 1 asking why people do crazy things with money. Any good behavioral finance book will give us more than enough “reasons”. Knowing why we are poor investors is the first step to becoming good investors. We’ll be going more into detail on each of the potentially fatal biases in later episodes.
In Chapter 2 he deals with luck in investing. If there are a billion coin flips, there will be long runs of heads or tails. By complete chance. If there are a billion investors, some by complete chance will look like long-term winners. Yet have no skill at all. Once you realize markets are unpredictable, the rational investment process can begin.
Chapter 4 covers compounding. The old adage “time in the market beats timing the market” is popular for a reason. US stocks have performed over the long run. And Buffet has performed better than most. But the sheer quantum or money he has is a result of achieving those investment returns over almost 80 years, starting when he was 14. Housel reveals that if Warren had started at 30 and retired at 60 he would be worth only $12 million, not the $100 billion he currently has. Compounding takes time to goose returns.
Chapter 5 shows how important diversifying your investments is in order to preserve wealth. Chapters 11, 12 and 13 tell a similar story, but also add patience, planning for disasters and low leverage. While many people get rich on one asset, usually their business or even their employer’s, diversifying among many assets and types of assets is the best way to keep rich.
The goal is to have an unbreakable portfolio for the money that you need for your future. That doesn’t mean that every investment has to be safe. In fact “barbelling” a portfolio with safe assets on one side and risky assets on another can sometimes be more efficient than all medium-risky assets. As Nassim Taleb says, “You can be risk loving yet completely averse to ruin.” We will have a lot to say about these issues in future episodes.
Chapter 6 explains why barbelling might be better, introducing the value of the “power law” to investing: Generally a few great investments drive the returns of the market. You only need one Apple or one Facebook to have amazing returns from investing. Being diversified and using part of the barbell to purchase high risk companies helps maximize the probability you get one of those winners in your lifetime. No guarantees though.
Chapter 15 is close to our hearts. Housel points out that holding stocks through a down market is not free. It costs mental anguish and real dollars (at least temporarily). You need to pay this price to get the long term investment returns that have historically occurred (back to “time in the market”. Because most investors can’t stomach this pain, then try to “time the market”: trading in and out, generally underperforming the market by a large margin. See our Falling Knives and Drawdowns episodes. That is also why “Macro Doom Porn” (episode 4) is so dangerous.
Chapters 16 and 18 are about investing for your own goals, and not someone else’s. The stakes are high (our financial freedom) so we tend to want to take advice. From everyone with any semblance of a credential. Be aware, however, that advice givers often have ulterior motives. And that humans are terrible forecasters.
Chapter 17 tells us not to be too pessimistic. Yes, a lot of bad things happen. But markets have had positive returns in the long run in spite of World Wars, epidemics, recessions, etc.
Chapter 19 has tons of conclusions and advice, including:
Manage your money so you can sleep at night: diversify and leave room for error
The easiest way to be a better investor is to increase your time horizon. We hate that generally. It’s hard to be patient. Stay in the market.
Be OK with losses and things going wrong.
“Play your game” = Invest your way.
“Respect the mess”. Economics and finance are not sciences. Prediction is impossible.
To conserve wealth and grow it, understand tail risk (risk of catastrophic events), leverage, and the unpredictability of markets. People are lousy forecasters and in any event the market is unknowable.
Stay “a serious possibilist”.
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Friday Dec 09, 2022
Episode 006. Stock Market Drawdowns: What You Need to Know
Friday Dec 09, 2022
Friday Dec 09, 2022
INVESTING (EVERYONE)
Recorded December 8, 2022
Episode six of At The Rotterdam explains one of the many reasons why retail investors underperform the indexes.
While the US stock market has returned around 10% per annum on average for most of history, retail investors – according to one study - earned less than 2%, even less than inflation.
Fees are partially to blame. But one of the less obvious yet likely culprits is impatience.
Investors have been spoiled for most of the last 14 years, as the financial markets have generally been up only. Yet studies show that investors spend around three quarters of the time in a drawdown situation: Showing a portfolio loss from the previous highs.
Bear markets can be long and depressing. Yet 65% of the time investors are in a drawdown of 20% or more. Holding while the markets fall is costly, emotionally as well as financially. This is the cost of holding stocks for the long run.
It’s always darkest before the dawn, and those who are not used to being underwater are more likely to sell at the bottom. But that has historically been a mistake.
We go through the numbers and show that US stocks have killed it in the long term, even if most of the time inventors don’t feel it. Hanging in has been the right call, even when it hurts.
Let’s just take the NASDAQ. It took 15 plus years to hit a new all-time high after the dot-com crash. But after it did, it went another 3.5x from there. Amazon bottomed down almost 95 percent. It took 10 years from its previous top to hit a new ATH. And then 18x’d from there.
Even the best winners in hindsight spent a great deal of time in a loss situation before the exponential gains arrived.
Patience has historically been greatly rewarded.
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Friday Dec 02, 2022
Episode 005: Hyped up inflation? Lessons from interwar Germany
Friday Dec 02, 2022
Friday Dec 02, 2022
MONEY AND ECONOMICS
Recorded December 2, 2022
For episode five of At The Rotterdam, Jeff and Rasheed recount how the weak Weimar Republic in Germany caused hyperinflation of the early 1920s, and why it is an extremely important event in history, but not for the reasons generally given.
The German hyperinflation that has been so often invoked as a warning against monetary overexpansion should in fact be a warning that paying too much attention to one rather unique incident in Western economic history risks not doing enough to bail out economies in crisis.
As terrible as it was, the hyperinflation did not directly contribute much to the rise of the Nazis.
But it did have a tremendous negative effect on the global economy and polity of the 1930s and 40s: It specifically served to dissuade Germans and Americans from expanding the money supply at the start of the Great Depression. As the Austrian economist von Mises wrote,
A nation which has experienced inflation till its final breakdown will not submit to a second experiment of this type until the memory of the previous one has faded. No German government could succeed in the attempt to inflate the currency … as long as the men and women are still alive who have been the witnesses and victims of the 1923 inflation.
The proper response, of reversing deflationary influences, was not considered because the last time money was freely available, hyperinflation resulted. Too little money too late was the major cause of the Great Depression and the economic and political turmoil in which the National Socialist rose to power in Germany in the 1930s.
Ben Bernanke knew this (he is one of the key scholars on the economics of the Great Depression) and did not hold back in the face of a potential second Great Depression in 2008. He said to monetarist Milton Friedman years earlier,
I would like to say to Milton and Anna [Schwartz]: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we won't do it again.
Taking the wrong lesson from the German hyperinflation would have been deadly for our global economy.
Some references:
As an antidote to When Money Dies (Kimber, 1975) and Jens Parsson’s Dying of Money (Wellspring Press, 1974), I highly recommend Tobias Straumann’s 1931: Debt, Crisis, and the Rise of Hitler (Oxford, 2019).
Straumann’s link between austerity and Nazism is further detailed, and argued convincingly, in a fresh-off-the-press Galofre-Vila et al “Austerity and the rise of the Nazi party” (JEH, 2021). See also Haffert et al “Misremembering Weimar” (E&P, 2019).
The prolific and popular economic historian Niall Ferguson has written on this exact topic in “Constraints and room for manoeuvre in the German inflation of the early 1920s” (EHR, 1996).
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Why are humans such bad investors? And what can we do about it?
Hosts
Rasheed Saleuddin holds a PhD in Financial History from Cambridge University where he remains a fellow after completing his post-doc. He also holds an MSc in regulation from the London School of Economics. Rasheed was the founder and manager of a specialized distressed investment fund from 2008-2018, and he continues to be a professional angel venture investor and consultant.
Dr. Saleuddin has authored two well-received books, The Government of Markets, dealing with the creation of modern futures markets and Regulating Securitized Products, a Post Crisis Guide, defining the risks that emerged during the 2008 Global Financial Crisis.
Jeffrey Sandler is a retired portfolio manager with a large US investment firm’s Canadian subsidiary. He previously managed large divisions for two Canadian, bank-owned investment dealers. Jeffrey has been a frequent guest on radio shows and other media outlets for many years where he commented on the capital markets, usually during times of market unrest. Prior to entering the investment industry, he worked in broadcasting covering crime and business.